Moazzam Begg on a loving, unextreme man.
Thomas Hobbes, in Leviathan (published in 1651): in a state of nature,
outside a political community, a state of anarchy exists and human
life is 'nasty, brutish and short.'
I wouldn't want to claim any linkages between Hobbes and Harry's Place, the
prominent pro-Israel anti-Islamist site which I admire very much -
although its comments section can be anarchic. I simply make use of that
famous phrase, which appears so often in discussions of the philosopher and
his work (but I did hear the philosopher Anthony Flew make the proud claim
that he'd managed to write a book
Marko Attila Hoare
As someone who has written posts in
defence of HP on more than one occasion, and who stood up for you when you
were driven off the internet by a libel threat, I don’t think I can be
accused of political or personal hostility to you. But the more familiar I
become with this blog, the more distasteful I find the atmosphere here and
the more questionable I find your ethics.
For me, the turning point was having threats repeatedly posted against me
by Mettaculture: he threatened
me physically; threatened me with a libel suit; threatened to contact my
employers. He also attacked me for the colour
of my skin, and tried to intimidate me with graphic descriptions of anal
sex, having previously tried to bully me into silence with references to
my class background and foreign name. Not to mention all the vicious
personal abuse (‘whore’, ‘douchebag’, etc.).
I’m not intimidated by this; Mettaculture’s kind is a dime a dozen, and
I’ve had my share of such creatures attempting to intimidate me. But it does
constitute harassment; it has nothing to do with ‘freedom of speech’. Not
only does HP not condemn such behaviour, it encourages it, providing a forum
in which every little anonymous internet psycho or stalker can engage in
such activities. When I tried to defend myself by outing Mettaculture, I
found that I was the one whom HP censored.
Below the posts it’s like a frat party (yes I’ve been to a few during
a year in the US – rarely felt so lonely).
You can add this comment to your piece: GO FUCK YOURSELF
comments of vildechaye -
blogger profile writer editor
I continue to discover lots of cheap eats and treats in Vancouver, and
the purpose of this blog is to share them with you.
no posts
'The Graduate.'
re: (vildechaye too)
up your bum.
Just saw this. You're right, i'm not one of the moderators, dickhead. Now be
a good little narcissist and fuck off.
learn to spell, then learn to think.
There have been one or two North American Jews that
regularly post on this forum that claim the external
dangers to Israel is exaggerated or a figment of
others imagination. I notice they have yet to
comment on this thread to repeat their assertions.
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you really enjoy talking out your arse, don't
you?
-
vildechaye: "you really enjoy talking out
your arse, don't you?"
Again there is no engagement with my
comment, just crude abuse. Your campaign of
harassment and intimidation seems endless.
Will your parents be proud that they have
raised what could be mistaken as a Nazi for
a son?
It is instructive to note that from the
comments on this thread you have made so far
(three our of four abusing me), you are more
interested in harassing me than commenting
on the welfare of Israel.
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I share this sentiment with you. Vilde.
can be quite abusive and when he is
short on argument appeals to this mode
of exchange. He is also known for
stalking. He is a core leftwinger, but
due to his loyalty to Israel, he can't
just let go and attack people who have
According to Thomas Hobbes, human life in a state of nature is 'nasty,
brutish and short.' ('Leviathan,' 1651.)
Also nasty, brutish and short, this comment by Vildechaye directed at me:
'You need to remove whatever is jamming up your pompous arsehold and piss
off.'
'up your bum.'
A slighter longer more carefully considered comment on me:
'Just saw this. You're right, i'm not one of the moderators, dickhead. Now
be a good little narcissist and fuck off.'
Vildechaye can dish it out, but can he take it? His first comment after
finding that I intended to add this piece to the site, with mentions of him:
You can add this comment to your piece: GO FUCK YOURSELF.
Followed by another comment, ending in
' ... go fuck yourself.'
Vildechaye's older comments directed at other people. A selection:
'fuck off.'
'you can fuck off too.'
'you really enjoy talking out your arse, don't you?'
'actually you're just a bigoted asshole with a thin veneer of intellectual
pomposity who cherrypicks sources -- on Youtube! -- and thinks he's being
clever. uh uh.'
'yes we're all listening to the likes of you now, you lying sack of shit.
Care to tell everyone where I wasn't brought up again?'
Vildechaye describes himself as a writer/editor on his blogger profile but
the only writing I can find on the Web by Vildechaye are his collected
comments on 'Harry's Place' but perhaps there's no shortage of writing under
his actual name - one of the penalties of using a pseudonym.
There is, though, the writing under the name 'Henry.' He's the author of the
blog
'Henry's cheap eats and treats in Vancouver.' He introduces the blog:
'I never liked paying a lot of money for food, and now, with 3 kids
and a mortgage, I like it even less, especially since even the
fanciest, priciest foods can't compete with the foods I really like.
I continue to discover lots of cheap eats and treats in Vancouver,
and the purpose of this blog is to share them with you. You'll save
money, eat well and feel good. Bon appetit!'
It's been in existence for seven years, quite a long time in blog terms. And
in all that time, how many posts has he made? 0, none, zero. The hungry,
hard-up hungry people of Vancouver must be getting restless. Time to make
more of an effort, Henry! An introduction to a blog won't feed the masses!
Then there's mettaculture, quoted quite extensively below. He's mentioned in
this piece by
Marko Attila Hoare, who has the blog 'Greater Surbiton:'
https://greatersurbiton.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/the-trouble-with-harrys-place/
This really is a proper blog, with many, many entries, including the one
'The trouble with Harry's Place.' I agree completely with his criticisms of
'Harry's Place.' I'm not in a position to endorse his particular criticisms
of mettaculture. I'm definitely in a position to make scathing criticisms of
my own. He writes,
'As someone who has written posts in
defence of HP on more than one occasion, and who stood up for you when you
were driven off the internet by a libel threat, I don’t think I can be
accused of political or personal hostility to you. But the more familiar I
become with this blog, the more distasteful I find the atmosphere here and
the more questionable I find your ethics.
'For me, the turning point was having threats repeatedly posted against me
by Mettaculture: he threatened
me physically; threatened me with a libel suit; threatened to contact my
employers. He also attacked me for the colour
of my skin, and tried to intimidate me with graphic descriptions of anal
sex, having previously tried to bully me into silence with references to
my class background and foreign name. Not to mention all the vicious
personal abuse (‘whore’, ‘douchebag’, etc.).
'I'm not intimidated by this; Mettaculture’s kind is a dime a dozen, and
I’ve had my share of such creatures attempting to intimidate me. But it does
constitute harassment; it has nothing to do with ‘freedom of speech’. Not
only does HP not condemn such behaviour, it encourages it, providing a forum
in which every little anonymous internet psycho or stalker can engage in
such activities. When I tried to defend myself by outing Mettaculture, I
found that I was the one whom HP censored.'
